Hey Lucas? When you said "no one here is arguing that PvP should go away"?

That doesn't apply now since this guy just posted.

Both sides don't have to change, only one does.

Highsec is too safe. That is not fixed by "compromise", it just simply needs safety taken away. Yes, only one "side" loses out. Well, they've been enjoying the imbalance in their favor for too long, time to fix it.

Not what I said, not even close.

Game imbalances should be addressed. And that means a net loss for highsec, since it's been skewed in highsec's favor for so long.

There does not need to be any "compromise" to do the right thing and fix the game.

Well a lot of folks PVP is really limited in my opinion. I think competing with industrialists for belts, resources, markets, is very much PVP. I think racing other explorers to sites is PVP. I also think that dodging griefers, denying them easy kills, is also PVP. For some PVP is only blowing up ships for the sake of blowing up ships. Not only that, but also that this is the sole purpose of EvE Online, any other content or possible content be damned. Anyone that somehow finds something else to do within the sandox is just not playing in the sandbox "correctly" Correctly clearly meaning to force feed the chubby kid as much sand as possible within said sandbox.

People are pretty selective with what aspects of the game are totally allowed in the sandbox and what need immediate intervention on the part of CCP. The latter tends to be things that serve their own interests. I am of the opinion that it is totally viable to spend your time game time shooting at ships that can't fire back, or specifically targeting players that are woefully bad at ship to ship combat. The game is a sandbox after all and there should be "room or everyone". I also know for a fact that if high sec "PvPers" formed a fleet, and immediately started heading out of in any given direction out of high sec for a long enough time....adventure awaits. If you want to chill in high sec however, that's fine too, but it's not like the game doesn't already offer you options for the hardcore PvP environment. Pretty much any space that doesn't begin with the word "High Security".

Barring that, wardeccing one person corps just seems like a waste of time. There won't be any fights. There won't be any tears. Better to target larger corps where the logistics of dissolving outweigh sticking out he war. But even then, there may not be any fights. Could be any number of reasons why, but at the end of the day it just boils down to the other side doesn't want to. People in this game rarely do what I want them to do or let me do what I want do to them. Usually kill them, not be killed by them respectively. It sucks. But I carry on.

Dissuading people from starting one person corps is a little unfair as they already limit themselves by not forming a network of other players which make just about any task better in this game, but if people want to play solo why should they need to be penalized any more than those who PvP in high? Solo is a perfectly acceptable play style and they pay the piper in other ways, especially given that what can be accomplished in this game increases the more people you play with. Not to mention playing alongside others is it's own reward, but that's only because I've had more good luck than bad with corps. The way to steer people away from solo corps or play is for the community to create more player corps that attract players rather than excludes or drives them away. But this is EvE after all, and this all this sand isn't going to eat itself.

To complain about risk aversion when one looks for combat off station undocks and gates against industrials or missioning ships in high security space is more than a little pot calling the kettle black. Combine that with coming up with reasons why it would be "best for the game" to funnel more lambs into the slaughter, because some lambs are evading the slaughter, is a bit much. Unless you like lamb chops of course.

That and their own selfish reasons, which blinds them to all reason and sense. They have to know it is wrong. No one, and I mean no one could be that low of an I.Q.

Me Me Me and all Me. screw balance. Screw, good for the game. Me Me Me

Ah, the "e-bushido" argument. If you want fair fights, you're playing the wrong game.

It's because I do so not because I'll cry if someone blows me up but because the ways i (and others) do so aren't chickenshit video game cowardice.

Ah, the "e-bushido" argument.

You must have just gotten to the forums tonight. Actually, someone did not too long ago post a thread demanding the removal of PVP from high sec. This is what the gradual disintegration of PVP integrity in EVE is coming to, and the more CCP panders to the demands of the carebears, the more demands the carebear makes.

As a result, I'm forced to change my own position on the matter. To prevent the pansification of EVE and the nullification of the PVP'er, I stand firmly against rolling corps for the sake of dec dodging. If you can't learn to pew pew, even if just to defend yourself, then you bring it on yourself.

#DeleteTheWeak

There's nothing wrong with hi sec ganking.

At first, I thought so too. Then it got locked, and he copied and pasted the exact same OP and title straight back into GD. Then he put another one in F&I. It's not so blatant when they go out of their way to defy the rules like that. A troll would post once, let the flames commence, then leave it be when it got locked, as is demonstrated by the daily troll threads we witness.

DE or SR?

It is their choice not to shoot back. It is not our fault that people choose to play a PvP game and then complain that somebody is trying to shoot them.

Also it doesn't help with people telling them that dropping corp is the best option.

Eve Online...

You undock, you consent to being attacked.

Everything else in the game is secondary to this.

It includes corp hopping in the case of unwanted wardecs.